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‘The Five’ rips White House over call with ex-Afghan president: ‘In 2019, Psaki cared a lot about phone calls’ – Fox News

The panel on “The Five” reacted Thursday to news that President Joe Biden reportedly pressured now-former Afghan President Ashraf Ghani to paint a rosier picture of the situation in Afghanistan this July than the reality on the ground.

At the time of the call, the Taliban controlled about half of Afghanistan’s district centers. Biden urged Ghani to hold a press conference with other prominent Afghan leaders to outline a new military strategy, which he argued would “change perception, and that will change an awful lot I think,” Reuters reported.

Host Dagen McDowell noted that Biden’s spokeswoman, Press Secretary Jen Psaki, pushed back on demands to release the transcript of the phone call between Biden and Ghani – who fled Kabul for the United Arab Emirates, reportedly with well over $100 million in cash.

In 2019, Psaki joined the chorus of Democrats calling for the then-Trump White House to release a transcript of the Republican president’s phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, amid claims he asked Zelensky to take a look at the foreign business dealings of Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, in Kiev.

“It is not just the call transcript. The whistleblower complaint would likely have more details. We need both. And not just the call,” Psaki wrote in a tweet on September 24, 2019, as California Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff initiated an inquiry into Trump that led to his impeachment.

“Back in 2019, Psaki cared a lot about phone calls when it came to Trump’s chat with the Ukrainian president,” McDowell said on “The Five.”

“Listening to Jen Psaki [today], you don’t respond to a question if you don’t have a good answer. And she doesn’t have a good answer for this,” she added regarding questions about Biden’s call with Ghani.

Host Will Cain responded that Psaki cannot offer a cogent response to such questions because she is hypocritical in this instance:

“If this were President Trump, would there be a push for impeachment? We know the answer is yes. If this phone call didn’t happen, if it was simply the Afghan debacle under President Trump? Would there be impeachment? Absolutely. If two top FDA executives resigned under President Trump, would there be a controversy? Yes,” he said.

“Clearly we’re not playing by the same rules a year ago.”


“What this reveals is President Biden knew the nature of what was going down in Afghanistan. He made decisions knowing the potential consequences… He made a calculation to accept that chaos. I think he made that calculation because he thought he could play the blame game and lay it off on President Trump. That has failed. The lie failed.”

McDowell went on to note that the Afghanistan crisis has ultimately caused Biden’s national approval rating to fall to 43%, citing a Public Broadcasting System/National Public Radio poll.

Fox News’ Jessica Chasmar contributed to this report.

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